Romero Faces Battery Charge, Bastardo Lands on DL


j.c. romero.jpgThe St. Petersburg Police Department has handed a complaint against Phillies left-hander J.C. Romero
to the Pinellas-Pasco State Attorney’s Office to determine if prosecutors will charge him with battery.

Romero and Rays fan Robert Eaton were involved in an incident immediately following Thursday night’s game between the Phillies and Rays at Tropicana Field.

St. Petersburg police spokesman George Kajtsa said the fan asked players leaving the field for autographs.

“The player ignored him and kept on going,” Kajtsa said of Romero. “So the victim starts yelling expletives and also making references to some things I can’t mention because it’s under investigation. That apparently angered the player, who then returned. The two had a shouting match and at one point the player hit him with an open hand — or he slapped him on his neck.”

Eaton told the St. Petersburg Times that he said something to Romero like, “How about you get me some juice?”

“Remember, this is a simple battery,” Kajtsa said. “No weapon was used. There were no injuries to the victim whatsoever, except as he says in the report he was embarrassed because it happened in front of other fans and his family. … This is a very minor incident so the state’s attorney will probably concentrate on more serious matters, but it will be up to the state’s attorney to make the determination.”

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Eaton and his lawyer Jim Magazine spoke today to WIP.

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The Phillies tonight placed left-hander Antonio Bastardo on the 15-day disabled list with a strained left posterior shoulder. They recalled left-hander Sergio Escalona to take his place. Escalona will join the team tomorrow in Atlanta.

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19 Comments

Interesting move, bringing up a RP to take the place of Bastardo. I guess he’s either here for a few days and Carlos will be called up on THurs, or we’re all wrong and we’re going to a 4 man rotation until the all start break.

On a different note, continuing the previous thread, Muleman and Phylan: he’s some info which may help you figure out what we need to do and what we can do trade wise:
Next year, our entire real 25 man roster (including guys on DL and not the rookies replacing them now), all are under the Phillie’s control except for Stairs, Eyre, Myers and Park. I doubt if any of them will be back except for Myers if he accepts arbitration for a 1 year deal. Stairs can be replaced by Mayberry, (or taylor/brown) for example and RP of Eyre’s and Park’s capabilities are easily found.

In 2011, however, Feliz, Werth, Brunlett, Moyers, Blanton and Durbin are all FA’s. While we have Outfielders in the minors to fill in for Werth ( Mayberry, Taylor, Brown) we have no one to fill in for Feliz, unless you count Donalds. We will also need 2 SPers, and an all round utility guy (Donald’s role, perhaps)

In 2012, we potentially loose to FA: Howard, Rollins, Victorino, Dobbs, Ibanez, Madson, Romero and Condrey. This in addition to the players listed above who are FAs in 2011. We can very likely enter 2012 with only 7 of our current players on the team (Utley, Ruiz, Coste, Hamels, Happ, Lidge, and Taschner) of whom 2 we probably won’t want back in any case (Coste and Taschner).

We need to take all of this into account when trading for pitching and RH bench this year. We can’t give away the players who are potential replacements in 2012. We can’t afford to restock the entire team via FA (we’re not the Yankees after all). This is Rube’s true test, not finding a SP for the last half of this season

On a completely unrelated subject, the Phillies have now gone over a week without signing a single additional draft pick (kinda easy to sign college seniors who have no other options). Time to make some progress on Hudson, Inch, Colvin, Singleton, Altherr, Susac and Stewart. Also, I hope both (1) that the Phillies will be active in the international amateur free agent market on July 2nd; and (2) that this website will cover that. Thanks.

On a completely unrelated subject, the Phillies have now gone over a week without signing a single additional draft pick (kinda easy to sign college seniors who have no other options). Time to make some progress on Hudson, Inch, Colvin, Singleton, Altherr, Susac and Stewart. Also, I hope both (1) that the Phillies will be active in the international amateur free agent market on July 2nd; and (2) that this website will cover that. Thanks.

IF true there is no way JC Romero should have laid his hands on this guy. But with that said he was on 610 WIP this morning with his lawyer and claimed he had a neck injury and would be looking for compensation for his medical bills and suffereing. IF that is the case why does the police spokesperson say “Remember, this is a simple battery,” Kajtsa said. “No weapon was used. There were no injuries to the victim whatsoever, except as he says in the report he was embarrassed because it happened in front of other fans and his family. … This is a very minor incident so the state’s attorney will probably concentrate on more serious matters, but it will be up to the state’s attorney to make the determination.” Come on now looks like he is just out for money to me.

Nothing but a money grab and this is also an indication that lawyers have no conscience. Our legal system is screwed up. Now Romero has to lawyer up and it will cost him regardless. If this happened in England and the complaintant lost the case or it was thrown out, he would have to compensate the defendant. That helps to stop frivolous lawsuits.

As far as the debate that has been going on in this blog about a trade for a starting pitcher, I have one thing to say. If they don’t get a good one in a trade, say goodbye to successfully defending the World F’ing Championship. They can’t win multiple postseason series with their current rotation. Carrasco or Carpenter would have to be lights out to be an upgrade it at this point, and I don’t see that happening.

While we need great pitching for a repeat let’s not jump off the bridge yet. Last year Hamels went 4-0 with 1 ND (Romero got the win), Myers went 2-1, Moyer went 0-2 with 1 ND (Romero got the win) and Blanton went 2-0 with Madson winning his ND. the staff’s era was an amazing 2.93

This year, we would go into playoffs (asuming no trades) with Hamels, Branton and Moyer. We need to replace Myer’s 2 wins. I think that Happ could do this. The question is whether our BullPen is up for a repeat. 3 wins in the playoffs went to the Pen. I didn’t count saves, but I know that they didn’t blow one lead. If they can do that again, we repeat. If not, then we don’t

f-i-j I’m not interested in finding a starting pitcher “for the last half of this season” (that sounds familiar, I swear I’ve read pretty much that exact post from you before). Like I’ve said a bunch of times, with Myers leaving for FA, it should be a guy who is under contract for next year (see: Cliff Lee), or one who could be cheaply re-signed next year. Injuries have depleted the trade market a bit, but there are still some strong candidates out there.

Worrying about 2012 right now is not really helpful. There is a ton of turnover in farm systems and at the big league level. Prospects get injured, or they hit their ceiling and it’s much lower than originally thought, etc. We absolutely CAN afford to restock our team, through a combination of free agency, trades, and a well-managed farm system. Managing your farm system well does not exclude dealing some of it for things beneficial to the big league club. It’s not like we’re all the sudden going to have to replace all of the players you listed in 2011/2012, there are 2-3 years to plan around it.

Your ideas about our rotation’s playoff-readiness are glowingly optimistic, and based on wins, which is useless as a pitching statistic. We don’t have to “replace” Moyer’s anything, because he isn’t contributing anything to the team. In fact, so far he’s cost us 4 runs more than a replacement-level scrub would have saved, and a replacement-level pitcher is not something you want in your rotation. Instead of “replacing” Moyer’s non-performance, we need to find a quality starter (not Jason Marquis-caliber) that can shore up our 3 most reliable starters so far – Hamels, Blanton, and Happ. Armed with that, we can afford to have a guy like Moyer in the back of the rotation, giving up over 2 home runs per 9 IP, getting shelled whenever the strikezone isn’t generous, because no team’s fifth starter is ever any good anyway.

Of course, our bullpen isn’t playoff ready either. But that’s a whole other story.

Phylan, we don’t disagree. I also think we need a Starter who will join the nucleus of the team for the next 3+ years. I used wins not as a stat showing how the pitcher did, but to point out that we went with 4 starters last year in the playoffs, and 3 of them are still with the team. Happ instead of Myers and the rotation is the same (though I dont’ think Happ will out psych CC like Myers did last year). If the rotation gets how at playoff time look out, it’s what happened last year. We were havign these same conversations last year and we ended up adding….Branton.

We need to keep our prospects looking forward but use them to take us where we want to go. If trading them makes us stronger for the next 3 years, trade them. If keeping them makes us stronger, keep them. I agree that we don’t need to trade just to trade. Saw a post that Zack from the Pirates may be available for the right price. I’d trade the farm for him. IMHO he’s worth giving up a package like Carlos, and either Taylor or Brown for.

As for planning around the players leaving after 2011 the only way to do that is to resign them. Planning on rookies is not a sure thing. Do we really want to hve two rookie infielders and a rookie OF the same year?

he name of the game is balance. Balancing the desire to win this year, with the need to be top rate every year. Balancing the potential of prospects with the known quality of veterans.
All in all, I figure we win the division and then its all about who gets hot at the right time.

BTW: why dont’ you think Myers esigns a one year arbitratin deal? his value is down thanks to his injury and next year he’d be in the posistion of having a contract year (what he was supposed to have this year). If I was the Phils I’d sign him to arbitration in a minute. We could then be looking at Cole, Myers, Branton, Happ and whomever (trade, rookie, FA or even Moyer is he gets it together somehow)

I need typing lessons

f.i.j.: “We can very likely enter 2012 with only 7 of our current players on the team (Utley, Ruiz, Coste, Hamels, Happ, Lidge and Taschner) of whom 2 we probably won’t want back in any case (Coste and Taschner).”

You’re kidding, right? 2012? Taschner should be running an auto dealership NOW and Coste is lucky to still have a job in 2009. Lidge is a question mark for August, let alone 3 years from now.
Let’s try to focus.

That’s what I’m saying. In effect we go into 2012 with 5 players from the current team. We need to focus on this year and continuing to win every year. We shouldn’t sell the farm for this year only, but shouldn’t be afraid to make a deal which will help us for teh next 3-4 years either.

You can’t plan for 2012. Not in sports – or any other aspect of life for that matter. Where was John Mayberry Jr. three years ago? Where was Lidge, for that matter? Relax and stop worrying about something that’s three years away. You’ll wear yourself out.

Jack Taschner Buick-Oldsmobile. Has a nice ring to it. Coste could be his first salesman.

As for the Romero nonsense, I heard that Eaton guy on WIP this morning. He professes to be a baseball fan, but I wonder why he would go after an autograph of a player that he clearly doesn’t respect?
All Romero did was say “no” or pass him by, and the guy rolls out the “Steroids” crack. Besides being wrong about the substance being steroids, that tells me he had an agenda.
John Gonzalez had a good take on the issue this morning in the Inquirer. It’s nonsense, plain and simple, and fans need to realize that they’re not here to influence the proceedings – merely to be spectators. But that isn’t enough for some people.

Mule: I do not want to wait until 2012, but I don’t want to finish last that year either. I want to win every year. therefore, you have to think of both this year and the coming years before making moves

f-i-j, your assessment of what needs to be replaced in the 2009 postseason, based on what happened in 2008, is flawed. You have to remember that Cole Hamels was a rainstorm away from making history (5 postseason wins) and that Lidge continued his perfection to the very end. I am realist enough to understand that I can’t have the same expectations. And that’s not even considering Myers becoming Tony Gwynn for an afternoon, when he didn’t really have good stuff on the mound. The rotation needs a huge upgrade in order to compete in this postseason. That means that they will have to use their well-stocked farm to bring in at least a #2-3 type guy. Screw 2012. They have a 2-3 year window with this nucleus and they need to maximize the opportunities to win more World F’ing Championships. 2012 will take care of itself if they continue to win. The resulting money train will helpt them re-sign their own and add pieces where necessary. Their farm is healthy with pitching, catching and outfielders.

Phan, that is my question. do we sell the farm and compete for 2009, 2010, 2011 or do we try to create a dynasty and compete in 2000-2020? Can we do this? I’m more then willing to trade prospects. I think we can get rid of 2 of our outfield prospects (Taylor, Mayberry and Brown) one of our 2 catchers, Donald, and a few pitchers. We need to keep Drabek, Carlos, one OF, this kid in A who was just promoted to AA. The question is can we get a top SP for what we can trade? I’m not convinced

Being an Eagles phan, I am not a big proponent of being just cautious enough to make sure that you are competitive. I want championships. What good did 13 division championships in a row do for Atlanta? One WS? No thanks.
You don’t have to sell the farm to get a #2-3 guy. You could probably get players like Duke (arby eligible) or Meche (unsightly contract for KC) for a package containing second tier players like Marson, Donald, Carpenter and Savery. You only give up the Taylors, Browns, Carrascos and Drabeks for the likes of Halladay and Oswalt, which appears to not be an option anyway.

If we can get Duke for what you say we should pull the trigger asap. I’m not overly impressed with Meche, though. As for competitive, to me that means making the playofs. I firly believe that in baseball it’s not the best team that wins the WS but the team who gets hot during the playoffs. That is why Atlanta only won 1 WS and teams like St. Louis can win one as the wild card. As long as we win the division every year we’ll win our share of WS.

As for giving up the Taylors and Browns, we have to give one of them up at some point anyway. our OF is set for the next year and a half and then Werth walks. The year after Ibanez walks. I can’t imagine either of them waiting until 2012 to make the big leagues.

Brown is pretty far from being a major league player. Taylor could be here as soon as 2010. Mayberry should be a piece in a trade.
I understand your point about getting in the playoffs, but you can’t make a run in the postseason without pitching. St. Louis got great pitching that postseason (they weren’t a wild card, BTW; they were a veteran team that had won their third division title in a row). Atlanta stayed competitive all those years, but they always had significant turnover that could have effected chemistry. The Phillies are built for now, so it is important that they have solid pieces to fill in the cracks. Losing Myers is a significant crack. Maybe they think they can win in the postseason with Hamels, Happ, Moyer and Blanton. I don’t. IMO, they need to replace Happ or Moyer with a veteran pitcher in October.

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