Amaro Talks Halladay, Martinez, World Peace, Etc.

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! Roy Halladay! Roy Halladay!

Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. spoke with reporters a few minutes ago at Citizens Bank Park. He would not comment specifically about Halladay, who is available via trade. But he talked about trading for the theoretical stud pitcher. He also said little about Pedro Martinez other than “we are trying to do what we can to add to our club, and if we feel at the end of the day Pedro is going to help us than we’ll make a run at him.”

Question: Can you go out and get a stud pitcher?
Answer: We have some flexibility. A lot of it depends on the player that we’re talking about. But we have some flexibility. It’s not unlimited. And as you know, we have the highest payroll we’ve ever had. We’re well over $130 million, and there is a limit to what we can spend.

Q: Are there untouchable players in your farm system?
A: There are some untouchables in our system. We feel that we’re building a pretty strong farm system. … We have to be prudent about what our future is about. It is important to win now, and we understand the importance of that. But that said, there are players we would like to keep for our future. And I would say they’re not as touchable as others.

Q: But it is a situation where you absolutely would not trade somebody? If the best player in the Major Leagues is available, are there still players you would not consider trading?
A: There are.

(Those players are right-handers Kyle Drabek and Jason Knapp and outfielder Dominic Brown.)

Q: Last year you reportedly finished second in the CC Sabathia sweepstakes …
A: Really? If you’re second, you’re last, I guess.

Q: Are you in better position to make a trade for somebody like a Halladay this year?
A: I think we’re in good position to do some things overall. Like I said, I think our farm system has improved. Again, when you’re talking about doing trades of any type, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. We may think our guys are much better than they think our guys are.  We’ll try to be aggressive with the right deal. At the same time, we have to be prudent about what some of these moves might impact our future, too.

Q: You understand fans and the manager don’t like to hear that?
A: Oh, yeah, I understand that. The goal is to win this year. There’s no question about that. That doesn’t change. But we didn’t get CC last year and we didn’t get Manny (Ramirez) last year and most of these guys on the field right now are toting rings around.

Q: Would you substract from the Major-League roster to make a trade?
A: The goal is to add, not to subtract. That’s really the goal, so subtracting doesn’t necessarily help us.

Q: If there is a guy you’re pretty sure can help you win a World Series this year, but you’d have to give up a guy you think might be a superstar … is that a tough call to make? Kind of like Doyle Alexander for John Smoltz. Is it worth giving up a guy like Smoltz for a World Series?
A: Well, if you can guarantee me that it’s going to win a World Series then probably, yeah. You don’t get a chance to win too many World Series. But that’s the thing. When teams put a really huge investment in a move they expect to win. Some pretty big names got moved last year and while those teams made the playoffs, they didn’t necessarily make for a championship club.


Asked about getting a right-handed bat for the bench, Amaro said, “I’d like to. Do we need to? I’m not sure. We’ve picked up guys like Matt Stairs late.”


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Draback, Brown and Knapp?….well, I’ll never be the G.M… not sure they would have been my 3 choices. And why telegraph the names that now (for sure) Toronto may ask for? Unless he has learned from the large guy across the street on how to throw up a smoke screen. I’m still scarred from the Ryne Sandberg trade, so I have no logic anyway.

I don’t have a Stanford education, but I’m not stupid or naive enough to believe that Halladay will end up with the Phillies. I can read between those lines. Toronto is going to want a team to overpay for Roy.

We’ve probably been through almost every scenario, that is except the one the Phillies will probably offer, I still think the only untouchable should be Drabek, other reports show the jays may want **** too and a slugger maybe, so there is always the possibilty of throwing in Donald, Marson even Stairs for that matter.

the **** was SS (shortstop) not sure why it went to ****

We’re talking about Prospects. Prospects man prospects. Not a starter not an All Star. Prospects…Prospects man Prospects.

About a month ago I didn’t want us to move any of Drabek, Knapp, and Brown but at this point I think a pitcher like Halladay will put us over the top and keep us around the top for the next 5 years. He’s 32 but he has pitched at such a high level for awhile and has several quality years left. Right now he is probably the best pitcher in baseball, so I would mortgage a couple players who could be stars for the best pitcher in baseball. I would trade one of those guys but not all of them I think. I think a package of Brown, Carrasco, Marson, and Donald could probably get it done. The Blue Jays want an almost Major League ready pitcher in return and would also like a good SS prospect from what I hear. They are also thin at catcher with Barajas and could use a young OF top prospect. This deal would still leave us with two of our best pitching prospects in Drabek and Knapp and it will leave us with Michael Taylor, who I think will be a stud but Brown has more value right now because he is younger.

Okay Hollywood, I like your offer, maybe you could set this up before the front office figure it out and mess things up…………..

They wouldn’t want Carrasco. Happ or Drabek would have to be in the deal. And the way it sounds, Ruben definitely has some ‘untouchables’. It won’t get done without one or two of those ‘untouchables’.
IMO, He’s going to settle for a lesser pitcher near the deadline.

The last time we acquired the best available pitcher, Steve Carlton, we sent the Cardinals Rick Wise. Auggie Busch was angry over Carlton’s contract demands and decided to send him to the worst team he could find…..This deal will cost the Phils a lot more than one young pitcher. What’s a guy like this worth? We’ll know soon enough if Ruben and company can make the deal. It’s time to get another iron man on the staff. I think this guy is strong enough to be the next pitcher to throw 300 innings. Carlton was the last to do it. Be cool if Halladay was in a Philly red pinstripe and followed suit.

Or maybe he’s putting drabek, brown and knapp out there to protect carrassco, taylor, and worley. Who knows. He could be lying folks.

That would be dumb because the first three prospects have a way higher ceiling than the second three you listed.

simps625 wrote: “We’re talking about Prospects. Prospects man prospects. Not a starter not an All Star. Prospects…Prospects man Prospects.”

Absolutely right. No one should be untouchable. You have a chance to get a top 5 ML pitcher when you have an offensive powerhouse in its prime, you jump. If they don’t do the deal it will be about money pure and simple. Young guys are cheaper and that is all. Phils have almost $30M coming off the books next year b/w Myers, Eaton & Jenkins, so don’t give me any BS about not being able to afford him. GO GET HIM RUBEN!

I don’t think Jamie Moyer is off the books next year. Hope I am wrong.

Agree with zach58. Whatever it takes to get this winner. Kind of compares to what the Flyers did a week ago. Whatever/whoever for Pronger. Prospects for STUD. Go Phils!!

Moyer signed a two year contract on 12-15-08. We are stuck with him for another year.

Moyer, in case you haven’t noticed is leading the team in Wins right now (just as he did last year). He started off real awful, but like the rest of the staff, seems to have gotten it together the last month. If he doesn’t think he can still pitch, he’s the type of guy who will hang it up and not stay around to collect his money (unlike Eaton and some other’s I caould name).

I said this last year, and during the early days this year, and I’ll say it again now. We need a new Pitching coach asap. The fact that our entire staff came into teh season not ready is directly the fault of the pitching coach. Perhaps if he cared more about pitching and not about making up the shedule for infielders etc during ST our pitchers would have pitched better in April and May

pherris: I said Myers comes off the books next year (along with Eaton & Jenkins) not Moyer.

FIJ: Moyer is done, last year was a fluke. He has an ERA over 6 at the halfway point of the season, the worst of any qualified pitcher in the majors. Can’t believe they signed a 47-year-old to a 2 year contract.

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