Myers Has Sore Shoulder

The Phillies certainly could have used Brett Myers this weekend at Turner Field.

But Myers never pitched, despite the fact the bullpen pitched 16 innings in the three-game series. In fact, Myers has not pitched since Sept. 12 against the Mets at Citizens Bank Park. Myers said Friday he had not thrown because Phillies starters had been going deep into games. But that no longer held true after J.A. Happ pitched three innings Friday, Pedro Martinez pitched three innings last night and Cliff Lee pitched four innings this afternoon.

Phillies general manger Ruben Amaro Jr. said following today’s 4-2 victory over the Braves that Myers has had soreness in the back of his right shoulder for more than a week. Myers will fly to Philadelphia on Tuesday to see team physician Michael Ciccotti to “see if there’s anything very serious about it.”

Myers, reached by telephone, said, “I don’t think it’s real serious. I have some stiffness and tightness and they want me to go get it checked out.”

The Phillies have just 14 games to play before the postseason, and with left-handers Scott Eyre (loose body in his left elbow), J.C. Romero (strained left forearm) and Jack Taschner (strained back) and right-hander Chan Ho Park (strained right hamstring) sidelined with injuries, this comes at a bad time. But Myers, who missed more than two months in 2007 with a strained right shoulder, sounded optimistic he would be pitching before the end of the regular season. He said he has thrown each of the previous four days and has felt better each time.

“I should be back,” he said.


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It’s quickly looking like the biggest liability in the postseason for the Phillies will be the bullpen. I had the same sense entering September, but with the return of Myers and Lidge seeming to recover, I had some optimism. Now that optimism is gone. Park, as crazy as it is to say, has to be ready for the playoffs. So does Myers, and I would even like Escalona to be added (I believe he is eligible) to the postseason roster in place of say, Durbin. It would be nice to have Eyre back but his shoulder might explode. The one advantage over last year is that our starters can probably go deeper into games (this is assuming Martinez recovers quickly) than last year to prevent burning bullpen arms.

Hopefully this just has to do with not being “pitching shape” after being on the DL all those months. His availability was a gift and Charlie seemed to be erring on the side caution saying he probably couldn’t close for that reason.

The bullpen this weekend was better than expected especially yesterday with the rain delay. SO glad that our Fightins took the series against the Braves. Now onto the Fish. Tomorrow’s back-2-back doubleheader should be interesting. Hopefully Moyer can continue his dominance against the Fish.

I believe rumors of the Phillies demise due to the bullpen are greatly exaggerated. There is enough talent there for someone to step to the fore. It is Charlie’s responsibility to find that diamond in the pile of coal.

Am I the only one that is having serious doubts about using Lidge in the playoffs? Would you trust him to close a game with a one run lead? Just saying…my flame retardant suit is on…LOL!

Flame retardant suit my dying a**- a fifth of scotch and a bottle of xanax.

Those diamonds are there alright and it’s nice to be in a humorous sort of way this Monday…looking forward to the DH tomorrow with Blanton and Moyer. The guys on the DL should be taking some spirulina and/or astaxanthin….it helps with inflammation but better check first to make sure it’s not on the banned substances list….

Did anyone catch Todd’s response to the origin of Charlie calling Ryan “The Big Piece”? Charlie apparently calls Todd “The Wisconsin Flash”, pretty cool! I wonder if “Flash” means Todd seems to be everywhere or if it comes from “news flash”……. Todd, we need some clarification on this nick name of yours. BTW, can we refer to you as the Wisconsin Flash, too?

The bullpen is going to get a workout tomorrow. Just what they need.

What’s the over/under number for fans at the 4:00 game in Florida today? My number is 1,500.
Todd, see if you can count them by hand from the press box.

Sometimes I don’t understand the rules of scoring in baseball. Under the circumstances, Cliff Lee should have gotten the win on Sunday.

phan: It has something to do with pitching 5 innings. Lee pitched 4, so the next guy in is the one eligible.
Rule 10.17 from the book:
If the pitcher whose team assumes a lead while such pitcher is in the game, or during the inning on offense in which such pitcher is removed from the game, and does not relinquish such lead, is a starting pitcher who has not completed
(1) five innings of a game that lasts six or more innings on defense, or
(2) four innings of a game that lasts five innings on defense,
then the official scorer shall credit as the winning pitcher the relief pitcher, if there is only one relief pitcher, or the relief pitcher who, in the official scorer’s judgment was the most effective, if there is more than one relief pitcher.
So, I guess they decided that Walker was most effective.

… and a little more from the book:
Rule 10.17(b) Comment:
It is the intent of Rule 10.17(b) that a relief pitcher pitch at least one complete inning or pitch when a crucial out is made, within the context of the game (including the score), in order to be credited as the winning pitcher.
If the first relief pitcher pitches effectively, the official scorer should not presumptively credit that pitcher with the win, because the rule requires that the win be credited to the pitcher who was the most effective, and a subsequent relief pitcher may have been most effective.
The official scorer, in determining which relief pitcher was the most effective, should consider the number of runs, earned runs and base runners given up by each relief pitcher and the context of the game at the time of each relief pitcher’s appearance. If two or more relief pitchers were similarly effective, the official scorer should give the presumption to the earlier pitcher as the winning pitcher.

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