Phillies Contact Boras

boras.jpgRuben Amaro Jr. said Monday the Phillies would call Scott Boras before the end of the week.

They’ve called.

And?

“There’s really not much to say,” Amaro said. “We’re not going to have a public discussion with what’s happening with Jayson (Werth), but we have touched based and we’ll see where it goes from here.”

It has been speculated Boras, who Werth hired as his agent last month, could seek a contract in the neighborhood of the seven-year, $120 million contract outfielder Matt Holliday signed last winter with the St. Louis Cardinals. If Boras cannot land that, Werth could fall somewhere in line with the four-year, $66 million contract outfielder Jason Bay signed last winter with the New York Mets.

Either way, it is believed Werth will not be back in 2011. The Phillies have nearly $145 million committed to 16 players next season, and Amaro said during Monday’s news conference he needs to inject some youth into the roster. With every other starter under contract and expected back next season, the only place the Phillies could get younger in the lineup is right field.

The Phillies have exclusive negotiating rights with Werth until five days after the World Series, but it is almost a certainty there will be no agreement before then. Boras certainly will test Werth’s value on the open market.

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Former Phillies hitting coach Milt Thompson interviewed Thursday for the same job with the Seattle Mariners, according to his agent.

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13 Comments

Hi Todd,

I have enjoyed your writing for the past few years and it is always entertaining to hear you being interviewed. I’ve got a question about your blog… Why do you repost the articles from the Phillies site here? Does this reach a different audience? I think you should post different stuff here even if it is only a few lines with a pic. say… something like “Ryan Howard spotted in so and so restaurant eating calamari.” anything as long as it’s not the same article you have available on the Phillies site. For instance you posted a pic of the hole in the wall that Ryan’s foul ball made in the press box wall down in the spring training facility. That was awesome.

Anything different to get me through the off season.
Thanks, Matt

C’mon cerambo, everybody knows Howard doesn’t eat calamari. He likes low and away sliders that … oh wait. No, he doesn’t.
Never mind.

Interesting how Junior now wants to let us all know what he is doing. The reality is that the Phillies are not going to resign Werth to which I can only say, “Good riddance, Jason!”. The man who never saw a first pitch he wanted to hit.

pherris: Actually, Jayson has hit .464 on first pitches over his career. He’s 65 for 140 with 13 home runs and 40 RBI. He swings at more first pitches than he does 1-0, 2-0 or 3-1 count pitches. What’s your point?
You know, you can look this stuff up before you rant. But that would ruin it for you, wouldn’t it?

Happy Halloween, everybody!

Wow. He’s swung at 140 first pitches in almost 3,000 plate appearances!! Awesome.
There’s a lot of things you can look up muleman. Pitchers know this stuff too, so I think the numbers can support the idea that the best pitch Werth will usually see in his at-bats is the first one because he usually ignores it.

phan & pherris: You guys must be corporate accountants, because you sure can manipulat numbers.
Why would any pitcher throw him a first-pitch strike if he hits them at a .464 clip? There are 12 possible combinations of pitch counts. Of all the combos, (except 3-0, when there is almost a sure strike to hit) he has the highest average on the first pitch, so I’d make an educated guess that the majority of first pitches he sees aren’t strikes.
The numbers are fairly evenly distributed as far as plate apperances with 1-0, 0-1, 11, 2-1 and 0-2 counts; so there is no concrete reason that he “needs” to swing at the first pitch in order to succeed. He hits higher than his lifetime average on 8 of the 12 counts – all when even or ahead, by the way – so your argument is senseless.
Sorry.

So Jayson takes 95% of first pitches? You just know that that keeps pitchers guessing. There is no danger of anyone getting hurt with a sharp object when he is in the room.

Muleman, I don’t see what is manipulative about pointing out that he has almost 3,000 plate appearances and has swung at 140 first pitches. I have watched enough Phillies games in the last 4 years to know that pitchers are generally comfortable throwing Werth a strike on the first pitch because they know his game plan. He’s seen more pitches than anybody in the NL over the last couple of years.
In fact, his superb hitting numbers on the first pitch suggests the same thing; that the first pitch he sees in a given at-bat is probably a pretty good pitch to hit.

phan: it’s no more
It’s a pretty good pitch to hit when he swings at it. Otherwise, it isn’t. That’s the point. What proof do you have that Werth sees a strike on the majority of his first pitches? The numbers indicate that he does almost as well waiting for another count, so going up there first ball-fastball hitting might not be his best approach if they decide to throw him something else.
It all boils down to why they call it an “average.” As I said, he’s had almost equal opportunities on other counts, so swinging at the first pitch isn’t always the best option. There are others.
It’s a fun debate, but I don’t think there is necessarily a right answer. I think Jayson does just fine as it is, and his career numbers (and ensuing contract) will bear me out. How much more successful do you want him to be? A tweak here or there isn’t going to turn him into Ted Williams.

Meant to start that with It’s no more important than a lot of other pitches.

Jayson’s ensuing contract really has nothing to do with his numbers. It is just great timing.
I am curious to see where he goes and what his role will be. He is a great fit for the Phillies but I wonder how he will do if he has to be ‘the man’ somewhere. He is a bit surly and would have a hard time with the media, IMO, if he had to be the guy they came looking for after every game.

Phan, it is one of the uncertainties about Werth. He’s never had to be “The Man” for a team He’s always been the 2 power guy. THe guy who protects the big threat. How he’ll do as “the Man” is anyone’s guess.

Yes, it is called average. And the stats show that Werth’s average is .354 when he is ahead in the count and .233 when he is behind in the count over his career. And, probably more times than not, he is in the .233 range after one pitch. This guy is clueless. If he had a clue, the Phillies would be emptying the bank right now. Adios, Jayson.

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