Phillies Interested in Ramirez

The Phillies are preparing for life without Jimmy Rollins.

Sources confirmed Monday they are seriously pursuing free agent third baseman Aramis Ramirez.

Ruben Amaro Jr. has said the “shortstop situation” is his top remaining priority this offseason, but Rollins is seeking a five-year contract, while the Phillies want him on a three-year deal. Talks between the parties have not progressed and Amaro does not want to be caught flatfooted should they reach a stalemate and Rollins signs elsewhere. That would be especially problematic if the uncertainty surrounding Rollins lingers a couple more weeks and suitable alternatives fall off the board.

The Phillies have a history of not waiting forever in free agency, so they might reach a point where they feel they must move on from Rollins. They signed Jonathan Papelbon before they could reach an agreement with Ryan Madson and have moved quickly with others in the past. But it certainly would be interesting to see what would happen if they reach an agreement with Ramirez before Rollins, who is the face of the Phillies franchise.

It does not seem like an easy decision to make.

Ramirez would play third base, which is why the Phillies have been shopping Placido Polanco, according to FOXSports.com. Ramirez would replace Rollins’ bat in the lineup. Rollins offers more speed, but Ramirez offers more power. He hit .306 with 26 home runs, 93 RBIs and an .871 on-base-plus-slugging percentage last season with the Chicago Cubs. He also has a career .342 on-base percentage and a .500 slugging percentage. <p>

So who would play shortstop for the Phillies, if Rollins is not back? It could be Freddy Galvis, who was the organization’s Minor League player of the year.  He is hitting .238 with 14 RBIs in 122 at-bats in Venezuelan Winter Ball. Another possibility would be free agent shortstop Alex Gonzalez, who hit .241 with 15 home runs and 56 RBIs last season with the Atlanta Braves.

They would be clear downgrades from Rollins, who hit .268 with 16 homers and 63 RBIs last season and plays Gold Glove-caliber shortstop. But Ramirez’s bat would make up for the lost offense. The Phillies also believe Galvis is ready to play shortstop in the big leagues, although his bat likely would be a liability.

But this is a case of one or the other: the Phillies will sign one of them, not both.

Of course, everything can change quickly. The deals for Roy Halladay and Cliff Lee in recent offseasons each died on several occasions before becoming official. The same could happen with Rollins. They might seem far apart Monday, but things could close quickly with a productive phone call later in the week.

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I’m not ready for a Phillies team without Rollins.

Ramirez makes a lot of sense regardless of what they do with Rollins. Gives Phils power hitter in 4th or 5th spot in lineup. he can play 3rd, Polanco 2nd and Utley 1st til the big guy comes back, then all 4 will need to rest since they are all old. Poly is gone next year, so they only have extra guy for this year. You can also plan on someone getting injured.

Wiggington can play outfield, too. so he will get ABs, especially when Howard is still out.

Why not both?!!!!

Trade Polanco!

So would that mean Freddie Galvis would be given the starting role at SS?

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Am I the only one who thought this post would be about Manny?

I did for about a second and figured RAJ had finally gone off the deep end. *phew*

Both of you guys are blind…… look at the pitcher that is posted……

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Sign him and a second tier SS, let JRoll walk. Poly can play 3B, 2B and RF/LF. Charlie Manuel can play Poly 4 out of 6 games to give those players a rest.

Hard to figure where the money comes from. He turned down a $16MM option so that is the reference point to think of. They pay Polanco $5-6MM I think, and if they were to trade him they likely eat some of that (trading him after last season is not ideal from a business standpoint, you’re selling very low). Granted the premise is that is in place of Rollins, but you also figure the Phillies need to sign a FA SS either way – maybe 2nd tier for $4-5MM. I don’t think Galvis is a legit option to start the season. All in all, this strikes me as more likely to be posturing to put pressure on Rollins (who seems to be down to two serious suitors in PHI and MIL after STL said they are not interested) than a very likely transaction.

Have people forgotten that Polanco was an All-star and Gold Glove winner this year? Why are people so quick to trade him?!?

Um…did you check the disabled list? Most of the time you’ll find Polanco’s name. He’s breaking down. Why was he an All-Star? Could it be because the dopey public voted him in?

How would reaching an impasse with a shortstop, Rollins, give the Phillies an impetus to look at another third baseman, Ramirez? Other than in Junior’s world, this makes no sense.

He’s playing a game, pherris. But I doubt JRoll is playng along. Still, it all depends on the market for JRoll, and it appears to be shrinking. I still think they’ll get him for no more than three years. If anybody wants to give him more than that, they are crazy.

Rollins might be “playing the game,” but this quote in a story by Matt Gelb speaks volumes: “I gave the Phillies a discount the first time,” Rollins told a source.
Apparently, he’s sticking with his 5-year demand. I’m not sure where Aramis fits in with all this, but he isn’t exactly durable either.
When you consider that Howard will miss a month or more, Chase’s ongoing physical ailments and a big question at third and shortstop, it doesn’t bode well for the Phillies’ infield in 2012.
I’m not excited by any of what they’ve done so far.

muleman, Jimmy can stick to his number but, with a shrinking market, he’s wasting his time. I’m guessing that the only way he signs elsewhere is to just stick it to the Phillies for standing pat on their offer. I’m not very happy with the offseason so far either (Laynce Nix? Really?) but they have to stop hemorrhaging dollars down the road at some point.

The dollars get worse as the years go on and the players get older. Ruben said he wants to get younger but I don’t see it happening.

The logic is clear: at present we have a 3b/ss combo who hit for about 20 HR, bat .270 and dirve in 120 and play great D. Change Jroll and Polly for Galvis and Ramirez and those numbers are about the same, if not better on O. yes the D takes a hit a 3B, but that is managable, especially with Valdez on bench to be a late inning relacement if needed. I think the best option is still JRoll at 3 years but if he’d rather play elsewhere so be it

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