Time for a Talk

So what was Charlie Manuel‘s tipping point?

“Sitting there watching that game,” he snapped.

Manuel called a team meeting following last night’s brutal 10-6 loss to the Mets.

Read the story here.

Manuel was asked following Tuesday’s loss why he had not spoken to his team yet. He said he did not know what to say. Well, he found the words last night.

People outside the team always want the manager to hold team meetings. They love the idea of him storming into the clubhouse, flipping the postgame spread and throwing chairs against the wall. Only if you’re the manager and you do that too often (or do that even once) the players start looking at you as a buffoon. Manuel picks his spots carefully, and he has a good track record with team meetings.

Here are the team meetings I found after doing a quick search and the immediate and long term response (I’m sure there a few meetings I missed, but this should give you the gist):

  • May 1, 2006: The Phillies went 10-14 in April and 5-10 at home and Dontrelle Willis was making them look bad through four innings in Miami when Manuel blew up at his team in the dugout. The Phillies came back to win the game to begin a nine-game winning streak. They finished the season 75-63 for the fourth-best record in the league.
  • April 21, 2007: Manuel called a meeting in Cincinnati after the Phillies fell to 4-11 the night before for the worst record in baseball. Cole Hamels struck out 15 a few hours later in a victory as the Phillies finish the season 85-62 for the best record in the league.
  • July 25, 2008: Manuel called a meeting before a game in Atlanta. The Phillies were 13-20 since June 13. They lost that night, 8-2, but won their next five. They went 38-21 after the meeting, which was the second-best record in the league.
  • June 26, 2009: The Phillies had lost 11 of 13 when Manuel called a meeting following a loss in Toronto. The Phillies won their next two games before losing their next three. But then they went on a 14-1 tear to finish the season 56-35 for the best record in the league.
  • Aug. 9, 2009: The Phillies lost 12-3 to Florida to lose eight of their last 12. They respond to Manuel’s meeting by winning 11 of their next 13 and finish the season 32-21 for the second-best record in the league.
  • Sept. 29, 2009: The Phillies had lost five of seven. They win three of their remaining six regular season games before winning the National League pennant.
  • May 26, 2010: This is one time Manuel’s meeting didn’t have an immediate impact. The Phillies had been shutout three times in four games when he called a meeting at Citi Field, but they were shutout the next night and lost five of their next seven games. That said, they finished the season 71-46 for the best record in the league.
  • Aug. 26, 2010: Manuel crushed his team following a four-game sweep to the dreadful Astros. He called his players “yesterday’s All-Stars” and more. They finished 27-8 for the best record in the league.

It will be interesting to see how the team responds to this one.

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Jim Salisbury and I are talking about and signing copies of The Rotation tonight at the Tredyfrrin Public Library in Stafford, Pa., beginning at 7:30 p.m.

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Jim Salisbury and I co-authored the book The Rotation, which is now available. Check it out here! Here are our upcoming book signings:

  • TONIGHT: Tredyfrrin Public Library in Stafford, PA, 7:30 p.m.
  • June 2: Citizens Bank Park, 3:00 – 4:00 p.m.
  • June 16: Barnes & Noble, 4801 Concord Pike, Wilmington, Del., 2:00 p.m.

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8 Comments

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I sure hope this team meeting helps. We are wasting such good outings from our starters. The bullpen cannot keeping blowing these leads. Someone has to step up and say “hey I am the guy that is going to stop this here and now”. We also have to have the players who have always been the leaders step up and lead. You know who you are. It is pretty bad, as a fan, to sometimes feel like Fredy and Pierre are the only ones giving 100% when they on the field. Come guys I know that all of you are better than the way you have been playing. Lets forget about everything that has happened before today and get out there and do what I know you guys can do which is win ball games.

If they were “yesterday’s All-Stars” in 2010, what are they now?

@muleman: Yesterdays Spring Training All-Stars

Tomorrow’s waiver wire list

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This does give you some perspective, though — clearly this isn’t the first time we’ve been in a scary slump!

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