Halladay’s Last Pitch?

Roy HalladayHas Roy Halladay thrown his final pitch for the Phillies?

This season, yes.

Ever, quite possibly.

He faced just three batters in the shortest start of his career in tonight’s 4-0 loss to the Marlins at Marlins Park, sweating profusely, struggling to find the strike zone and never throwing harder than 83 mph in the process. He barely resembled the former Cy Young winner that once threw a perfect game and postseason no-hitter for the Phillies.

Halladay said he is suffering from “arm fatigue” following right shoulder surgery in May, but he also revealed he has been battling a recently diagnosed illness related to his diet, which runs in his family.

He said it is under control.

“I thought there was something serious going on,” he said.

Halladay had been scheduled to make his final start of the season Saturday against the Braves at Turner Field, but he said that will not happen. He called Dodgers physician Neal ElAttrache following the start. ElAttrache performed the surgery in May.

“You just need rest,” he told Halladay. “You need three weeks or more of rest.”

Halladay said he only rested a few days following the surgery in an effort to come back to pitch and fulfill his contract.

“He was surprised that I lasted this long, and that I didn’t get tired sooner,” he said. “Getting that rest is important. He said after that it’s going to be a normal winter for me as far as getting ready. He said there wouldn’t be anything different. … I would have thought there would have been some pain involved. He said that it’s something most guys go through, if they do come back and pitch. I think had I not been so determined to come back and try to pitch and fulfill my contract I might not pitched this year and rehabbed and rested and came back full next year. But I really felt an obligation to the organization. I really wanted to prove to myself that I could do it.”

Halladay said he had no regrets.

“No,” he said. “Because talking to (ElAttrache) it’s only going to put me further ahead for next year. Had I had any pain along the process I would have stopped it immediately and made sure that was taken care of. But I never had pain. The only setbacks I had was just the life (on the ball). I had a lot of peaks and valleys. That’s apparently part of the process of coming back.”

Halladay is a free agent after the season, and it is far from certain he will be back. He turns 37 in May and he has a 5.15 ERA over the past two seasons as he has battled shoulder problems. But the Phillies have said repeatedly that few pitchers, if any, would have returned so quickly from right shoulder surgery. That is why the Phillies and Halladay have said they expect improved results next season, when he has had an offseason to rest and fully prepare for Spring Training.

“If we can come to some agreement, I’d love to bring him back,” Ruben Amaro Jr. said before the game. “We’ll see what happens.”

It would seem to make sense for the Phillies only on a one-year, incentive-heavy contract.

“There is risk to him, but I think he’ll be better,” Amaro said. “With the proper amount of rest this offseason … It’s hard to crystal ball it and figure out what kind of pitcher he’ll be, but I think he’s going to be better than what he is [presently]. This could be all he is, but I think he’s going to be better.”

If this is all Halladay is, it is not a fitting ending.

“I don’t know what the future is going to hold, but I want to go somewhere that wants me and somewhere that is going to have a shot,” Halladay said. “Like I’ve always told you guys, I hope that’s here. Worst case scenario, I start throwing and things aren’t happening the way they’re supposed to, then I’m going to be honest with whoever’s interested and make a decision from there. If things go the way that I’ve been told they’re going to go and the way I expect them to go, I’m going to be competitive next year. I’ve never given up the hope I could pitch here again. But obviously that’s a mutual decision. Fortunately for a while I get a workout in Clearwater, so they’ll get to see me more than anybody.”


Todd, maybe a little more info about the illness? You kinda glossed over that here. People, fans and some media, have been speculating about some kind of illness or virus since last year. Thanks.

I was thinking the same thing. He seemed to leave games early or miss starts a couple times a year with “the flu”. The one start last year I think was heat exhaustion when it was something like 104 on the field – but you never know…

Whatever the illness is that is between Roy his family and lastly his employer.
We have to respect that, just because most of someones life is in the public domain does not mean we have to know every detail. We are just fans.
I hope he gives himself time to recuperate.

Thank you for your service, however it is time to move on without Doc. Not sure why we always think there will be a turn around with our aging stars when all the proof is in the numbers.

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i have come to the conclusion that michael martinez has to be amaro’s little bitch. it is the only sensible answer as to why michele is still part of the organization.

The Phils will need two starters next year, one, if Miguel Gonzalez shows us in spring training that he is ready for the Bigs. I can see Ruben signing Doc to an incentive-laden contract based on total innings pitched in the season. Doc needs to lock down his pitches in the same arm slot and have 8+ mph separation between his fast ball and breaking pitches. Also, I think he changed the grip on his cutter to get more movement on it. He just needs to go out there and pitch until he gets everything into place. Of course, it will be ugly until he does, if he ever does.

I think Doc needs to wake up to reality for his own health and future quality of life. Getting old sucks especially when you are still a young man in general. He has some sort of serious health issue on top of having an arm that has logged a ton of miles. I really hope we just walk away because honestly it will be depressing to watch him fall further. Despite his good guy attitude, etc. he is done. He is not reliever material and his days of being anything close to a top 3 are over. Time to move on as an organization. I wish him well in his efforts, but I would be shocked if he ever pitches more than 50 innings in the majors again.

Amatuer dr on this; it appears he is suffering from a thyroid issue which can be quite serious. Weight, sweating, gaunt appearance etc. Lets all hope he gets a diagnosed, treated and whatever realities exist the Phils do what’s best next season.

lee, a Dr. friend said the same thing the other day about a possible thyroid issue. I hope for Doc’s sake that they get to the bottom of it.
Good to see Stutes make an appearance last night and get the win. If he can stay healthy he could be a good bullpen piece in 2014.

Stutes looked good last night. It was encouraging, but then again it was the Floundering Fish he was facing.

I think it’s useless to speculate what Doc has. As long as he thinks he can “manage” it and that it will be a non-issue for his coming back next season, that should be good enough for any team he would play for next year. The tired arm is more of an issue than anything else. All pitchers go through a “dead arm” phase at some time during the early part of the season/spring training and some time in mid-season, but high 70s fastballs?! That’s too dead for most teams to want to take a chance with….

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